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paul ryan -- paul ryan and i are about the same age. these are different kinds of republicans. they're not afraid of talking to people of color, not afraid of some of these things, some of their parents and grandparents were. this is what i'm saying. democrats have to be careful. barack obama supporting a democrat in 2016 does not mean that democrat's going to get black and latino votes. these democrats are going to have to have solid programs that appeal to these constituencies and fundamental relationships and not be dependent upon the president to carry that water for them. we saw it in 2010. it didn't work. probably won't work again unless these democrats have their own ideas. >> but, david, the democrat in 2016 or even the democrats in the midterm in 2014, i agree, can't depend on the president to deliver votes from latinos or african-americans. but the republicans not being able to expand can only help a candidate win that without having to do much of anything. >> and they're not going to be able to expend in the next two years. it's interesting that tonight these speeche
paul ryan -- paul ryan and i are about the same age. these are different kinds of republicans. they're not afraid of talking to people of color, not afraid of some of these things, some of their parents and grandparents were. this is what i'm saying. democrats have to be careful. barack obama supporting a democrat in 2016 does not mean that democrat's going to get black and latino votes. these democrats are going to have to have solid programs that appeal to these constituencies and fundamental...
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here comes paul ryan now. oh, look at him. he's vowing to help americans rise up from poverty and he's slamming his old pal mitt's 47% comments. what a change. okay, who's next? none other than senator marco rubio. a few weeks ago he was proudly standing with mitt romney and he and agreed on tax reform. look at him today. he's mr. middle class. >> middle class. >> middle class. >> middle class. >> and we have a very special guest makeover. it's rick santorum. earlier in the year he ran for president on an anti-immigration platform. and look at this. now he's saying immigration will bring economic growth to america. incredible makeover. but stop the music. the entire party is trying to cover up who they really are inside. the policies haven't changed is all rhetoric. like most makeovers, the gop is only skin deep. joining me now is abby huntsman, producer of huff post live and dr. james peterson at lihi university and contributor to the grio.com. what do you make of these republican makeovers? >> well, they are not makeovers. t
here comes paul ryan now. oh, look at him. he's vowing to help americans rise up from poverty and he's slamming his old pal mitt's 47% comments. what a change. okay, who's next? none other than senator marco rubio. a few weeks ago he was proudly standing with mitt romney and he and agreed on tax reform. look at him today. he's mr. middle class. >> middle class. >> middle class. >> middle class. >> and we have a very special guest makeover. it's rick santorum. earlier in...
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i'm so struck seeing paul ryan at the jack kemp dinner. i don't know how you can can idol i idolize rand and jack kemp. jack kemp saying, of course, we don't forget about anyone or leave anyone behind, and ian rand says you leave behind anyone that can't fend for themselves. >> i think it's paul ryan trying now for at least a year to leave rand behind, and he's said -- he's tried to back away from all that. i think when you listen to both ryan and rubio today, this isn't like st. paul getting blinded by a new truth. these guys are practical politicians who saw the damage the 47% did and are changing their rhetoric. most of those speeches were standard conservatism. i think the fact they change the rhetoric is a really big deal. since ronald reagan it's been liberals that adjusted to conservative ideas. the beginning of that was bill clinton saying the era of big government is over. i think this is the first time in three decades where conservatives have been pushed or forced by theç reality of politics and an election results to aadjust
i'm so struck seeing paul ryan at the jack kemp dinner. i don't know how you can can idol i idolize rand and jack kemp. jack kemp saying, of course, we don't forget about anyone or leave anyone behind, and ian rand says you leave behind anyone that can't fend for themselves. >> i think it's paul ryan trying now for at least a year to leave rand behind, and he's said -- he's tried to back away from all that. i think when you listen to both ryan and rubio today, this isn't like st. paul...
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and the fact that even paul ryan and mitt romney ran away from entitlement cuts in paul ryan's budget in the last election i think is a sign of where the american public is. they want the rich to pay their fair share in taxes, but they really don't like a lot of cuts. >> to some extent. >> and erin, look, in response to what you were just saying about the fact these savings don't really kick in for ten years, that is a legitimate point. look what we did in 1982. the most conservative president and one of p most liberal speakers of the house. when they reached that deal, today, we are reaping huge savings from that, so those savings ten years, 20 years, 30 years from now, those are going to be enormous. we keep punting every time we come to this. the most important factor is the fact we get 80 million baby boomers retiring in the next 20 years. >> immigrants aren't having as many kids, so who's going to pay. >>> new fears that the regime in syria is growing more desperate. no internet access for the second day. this is a pretty incredible thing to see. republican senators now calling f
and the fact that even paul ryan and mitt romney ran away from entitlement cuts in paul ryan's budget in the last election i think is a sign of where the american public is. they want the rich to pay their fair share in taxes, but they really don't like a lot of cuts. >> to some extent. >> and erin, look, in response to what you were just saying about the fact these savings don't really kick in for ten years, that is a legitimate point. look what we did in 1982. the most...
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i was up on the hill and saw paul ryan and the others there. i think for all the rhetoric, i think they are becoming to come to terms with reality here. i mean, paul ryan did sign off on this $800 billion tax increase. no, it's not enough. no, it's not done in the format it will need to be in the end. but they have finally chucked or at least reer toicly this long-time insistence. i think they're saying, okay, we lost the election, we are to get down to reality. they are off the cliff but it's an important concessions. >> that's not bad, after four weeks, a general realization of reality. >> today we heard john sununu echo his candidate's 47% remarks. also there's this editorial from the great ted nugent on how to resolve the fiscal cliff. the nug says, let's stop the insanity by suspending the right to vote of any american who's on welfare. how effectiveç is voter suppression good at cushing insanity? >> this is the first time we've heard from john sununu. probably not the first time we've heard from ted nugent. these are two outliers within
i was up on the hill and saw paul ryan and the others there. i think for all the rhetoric, i think they are becoming to come to terms with reality here. i mean, paul ryan did sign off on this $800 billion tax increase. no, it's not enough. no, it's not done in the format it will need to be in the end. but they have finally chucked or at least reer toicly this long-time insistence. i think they're saying, okay, we lost the election, we are to get down to reality. they are off the cliff but it's...
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. >> and road to 2016, congressman paul ryan and senator marco rubio drop big hints at last night's dinner honoring jack kemp. >> you know any good diners in new hampshire or iowa, right? >> paul, thank you for your invitation for lunch in iowa and new hampshire, but i will not stand by and watch the people of south carolina ignored. ♪ >> and take five, to remember one of the greatest innovators jazz has known, composure dave brubeck, died a day short of his 92nd birthday. ♪ >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. we begin with the fallout from a senate vote that seemed to underscore everything that is wrong with capitol hill. the senate's rejection of an international treaty to guarantee equal rights for people with disabilities based on what has been american law since the first bush presidency 22 years ago. the treaty supported by every democrat and eight republicans, came five votes short of passage of the required 66 needed for ratification. 38 republicans voted no despite the return to the floor of former majority leader bob dole only days out of the hospital. there
. >> and road to 2016, congressman paul ryan and senator marco rubio drop big hints at last night's dinner honoring jack kemp. >> you know any good diners in new hampshire or iowa, right? >> paul, thank you for your invitation for lunch in iowa and new hampshire, but i will not stand by and watch the people of south carolina ignored. ♪ >> and take five, to remember one of the greatest innovators jazz has known, composure dave brubeck, died a day short of his 92nd...
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look, i'm no paul ryan fan. but here's a guy who really does have a following. he does have a constituency. and he's in the house. and is probably going to be a key part of the fiscal slope, fiesta negotiations. >> i think you're absolutely right. >> that would be productive and meaningful. >> you're right. in many ways this is a pointless meeting because romney has no real followers. he doesn't have a steady agenda to push. he's not going to be advocating for a thing he wants. if the president saw what stewart stevens wrote in the "washington post," that was total eye roll city. i'm sure he wasn't liking it any more. the president was a charismatic african-american with a billion dollars, no primary and media that often felt morally conflicted about being critical. okay. whatever. eye roll city. but i actually was working the phones earlier today. did some reporting. >> that's weird. >> sometimes i do that. and i actually was able to find out what they're going to be serving at the meal today. >> really? >> i have the menu. the appetizer, sour grapes. the main
look, i'm no paul ryan fan. but here's a guy who really does have a following. he does have a constituency. and he's in the house. and is probably going to be a key part of the fiscal slope, fiesta negotiations. >> i think you're absolutely right. >> that would be productive and meaningful. >> you're right. in many ways this is a pointless meeting because romney has no real followers. he doesn't have a steady agenda to push. he's not going to be advocating for a thing he...
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paul ryan who said, the real problem in all of this, yeah taxes, they are going to be disputes about how you get revenue. the real problem is runaway entitlement spending. >> sean: absolutely. >> it is the big elephant in every room. and the republicans say let's do something about it when i talked to obama in july he said, "it is an untenable position to say we're not going to do anything on medicare or medicaid when that's one of the biggest drivers of our budget deficit." there's the president, on record saying it is untenable. >> sean: this is in your book. >> this is in the book. >> sean: your conclusion about the president in your book was he had an opportunity to lead and he did not lead. john boehner was willing to go further than i as a conservative would have liked. we discussed that. how does the president, planning a vacation in hawaii for 20 days. the president sends geithner to meet with the republicans yesterday. >> i don't think that's fair. >> sean: he's a tax cheat. >> he made a mistake and he paid and everyone -- [ talking over each other ] >> sean: i never cheated
paul ryan who said, the real problem in all of this, yeah taxes, they are going to be disputes about how you get revenue. the real problem is runaway entitlement spending. >> sean: absolutely. >> it is the big elephant in every room. and the republicans say let's do something about it when i talked to obama in july he said, "it is an untenable position to say we're not going to do anything on medicare or medicaid when that's one of the biggest drivers of our budget...
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paul ryan was the honoree last year. yes, andrea. these are two guys without question are going to be in that 2016 presidential race barring some sort of unforeseen circumstance. they're both positioning themselves to lead the party. i'm interested to see what they talk about, because i think both of them -- paul ryan is talking about poverty. marco rubio is talking about education so not two typical what we would traditional republican issues, taxes and those sorts of things. this is an attempt by both men, i think, and a chance for both men to expand on what it means to be a member of the republican party and to try to broaden an appeal we saw in the 2012 election is just not broad enough particularly among hispanics. they are problems with women and young people. rubio is 41 and ryan is 42 years old who are leading a youth movement that the party hopes will change that appeal, correct their demographic problems and it starts even though the election is a month old, it starts today. >> i would put bobby jindal in that group as well
paul ryan was the honoree last year. yes, andrea. these are two guys without question are going to be in that 2016 presidential race barring some sort of unforeseen circumstance. they're both positioning themselves to lead the party. i'm interested to see what they talk about, because i think both of them -- paul ryan is talking about poverty. marco rubio is talking about education so not two typical what we would traditional republican issues, taxes and those sorts of things. this is an...
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paul ryan, that guy has a widow's peak. that's weird. that's different. and that guy, sure, that guy looks like your average local news anchor, but that other guy near him looks like your average sports announcer. so the bland white guy with glasses, that guy's nearsighted, but this other guy with glasses, that has as stigmatism. what's that? really, nearsighted as well? all right. at should we invest i? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ... nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. flavor boost, meet beef. it's swanson flavor boost. concentrated broth to add delicious flavor to your skillet dish in just one stir. mmm! [ female announcer ] cook, meet compliments. get recipes at flavorboost.com. military families face, we understand. at usaa, we know military life is different. we've been there. that's why every bit of financial advice we offer is geared
paul ryan, that guy has a widow's peak. that's weird. that's different. and that guy, sure, that guy looks like your average local news anchor, but that other guy near him looks like your average sports announcer. so the bland white guy with glasses, that guy's nearsighted, but this other guy with glasses, that has as stigmatism. what's that? really, nearsighted as well? all right. at should we invest i? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research...
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>> i think they're both the top contenders on the republican side, paul ryan is sort of the de facto leader of the party. among conservatives he is beloved. really will be an interesting figure. he is supposed to be very influential and a part of the daily negotiations on this fiscal cliff deal, although he is hiding from the press, which is an interesting game. as he kind of emerges, we know that marco rubio is running. he has already been to iowa. they both have these roles. what will a fiscal cliff deal -- will paul ryan get blamed if he does, and marco rubio can he turn the party around with some push for immigration reform? risky with the base. >> it also is interesting in these kind of years where the republicans have now suffered a loss. clearly mitt romney is not going to be the party leader. they don't actually have one, and you watch the wilderness lap for a while. >> you know, candy, i hate to say this because i know we want to play along for 2016, but i think part of the problem in washington is everyone is so focused on the next election it's always an excuse not to get
>> i think they're both the top contenders on the republican side, paul ryan is sort of the de facto leader of the party. among conservatives he is beloved. really will be an interesting figure. he is supposed to be very influential and a part of the daily negotiations on this fiscal cliff deal, although he is hiding from the press, which is an interesting game. as he kind of emerges, we know that marco rubio is running. he has already been to iowa. they both have these roles. what will a...
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. >> earlier today, romney expected to meet with paul ryan. >>> a top adviser for the romney campaign, stewart stephens, is out with an op-ed arguing that his candidate was the real winner on election day. he writes, "on november 6, romney carried the majority of every economic group except those making less than $50,000 a year. that means he carried the majority of the middle class. voters, yes, the republican party has problems but as we go forward, let's remember that any party that captures the majority of the middle class must be doing something right. republican ideals-mitt romney-carries the day." >> he argues that they stem from being charismatic african-american president with a billion dollars. no primary in a media that felt morally conflicted about being critical. >>> overseas markets are treading higher this morning on hopes that lawmakers here at home will reach a budget deal when it comes to taxes and entitlements. in a meeting with middle class americans yesterday, president obama said he believes the framework for a deal could be in place before christmas. >> and i'll
. >> earlier today, romney expected to meet with paul ryan. >>> a top adviser for the romney campaign, stewart stephens, is out with an op-ed arguing that his candidate was the real winner on election day. he writes, "on november 6, romney carried the majority of every economic group except those making less than $50,000 a year. that means he carried the majority of the middle class. voters, yes, the republican party has problems but as we go forward, let's remember that any...
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> senator marco rubio was honored last night at the dinner for the kent pound dafoundation featured paul ryan who wasted no time trying out some 2016 jokes. >> marco is joining in an elite group of past recipients for this award. two of us so far, i'll see you at the reunion dinner, table for two, do you know any good diners in new hampshire, iowa? >> you get it. when rubio took the stage, he revealed to the crowd that he paid off his student loans from law school just this year. thanks to the sale of his book. >>> well, casino billionaire who reportedly spent $150 million on mostly losing republican campaigns this year tells the "wall street journal" he'll double down on his donations next time, that he will not have to look far to find the money. the journal says he's just received a $1.2 billion bonus from his sands corporation ahead of any tax increases that come could come out of the fiscal cliff negotiations. >>> and finally, politico reports ashley judd is seriously considering a run for mitch mcconnell's senate seat in kentucky. judd has talked with new york senator gillibrand an
> senator marco rubio was honored last night at the dinner for the kent pound dafoundation featured paul ryan who wasted no time trying out some 2016 jokes. >> marco is joining in an elite group of past recipients for this award. two of us so far, i'll see you at the reunion dinner, table for two, do you know any good diners in new hampshire, iowa? >> you get it. when rubio took the stage, he revealed to the crowd that he paid off his student loans from law school just this year....
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he was a mentor to paul ryan. you know, ryan got the award last year, the first year this foundation gave out the award. rubio got it this year. >> ryan and rubio talked about as potential contenders for 2016. and they even joked about it. >> they did. right off the bat. in both their speeches both guys got it out of the way. here's what they said. >> as you may know, marco is joining an elite group of past recipients fors this past award. two of us so far. i'll see you at the reunion dinner. table for two. know any good diners in new hampshire or iowa. >> paul, thank you for your invitation for lunch in iowa or new hampshire, but i will not stand by and watch the people of south carolina ignored. >> i don't have to tell you this, you're from iowa, iowa and new hampshire and south carolina traditionally lead off the presidential primary and caucus calendar. listen, it will be a lot of talk about these guys, in the spotlig spotlight, but 2016 a long way away. >> marco rubios has already been to iowa. >> already. >>
he was a mentor to paul ryan. you know, ryan got the award last year, the first year this foundation gave out the award. rubio got it this year. >> ryan and rubio talked about as potential contenders for 2016. and they even joked about it. >> they did. right off the bat. in both their speeches both guys got it out of the way. here's what they said. >> as you may know, marco is joining an elite group of past recipients fors this past award. two of us so far. i'll see you at the...
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neil: does it bother you that mitt romney's runng mate, budget committee chief paul ryan is going along with this deal. >> it is his budget. he is the -- >> he has been bed in a corner. >> governing is a tricky thing, being in washington right now, i always believed, you know when i was in washington, called lame duck sessions turkey season, because just about every turkey you could imagine will fry to try to fly at this point. i mentioned we're about 16% of gdp right now compared to 18.5 where we normally are, we're close to 25%, talk about fiscal stimulus? we have been pumping fiscal stimulus out the wazoo for a long time. we have a problem in washington. a president who is addicted to spending, a congress that is addicted to spending. and we need to have an intervention. and that instervention that to come from people in washingn who understand the problem. and the have to say no to all of this. unfortunately, the one place that can happen is the house, and it is not happening. neil: one thing -- you and i might disagree -- but i think that elections do have consequences, the america
neil: does it bother you that mitt romney's runng mate, budget committee chief paul ryan is going along with this deal. >> it is his budget. he is the -- >> he has been bed in a corner. >> governing is a tricky thing, being in washington right now, i always believed, you know when i was in washington, called lame duck sessions turkey season, because just about every turkey you could imagine will fry to try to fly at this point. i mentioned we're about 16% of gdp right now...
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what went on at this meeting. >> sure. >> this is from an aide to congressman paul ryan. it says, "congressman ryan had a constructive and positive conversation with mitt romney this morning. in addition to sharing updates from their families and reflections from the campaign, their forward-looking conversation focused on the critical fiscal and economic challenges ahead. that is a hint, suzanne, that they did talk about the fiscal cliff and, by the way, that aide did confirm this was their first meeting together since the election. >> and, jim, talk a little bit about what mitt romney is expecting or hoping out of his meeting with the president here. i mean, this was a bitter campaign. it was personal in some ways, and i imagine they have some work to do before they'll even sit down and really listen to each other. >> that's right, suzanne. i think some fence-mend issing probably going to happen at this meeting, but keep in mind, you know, i think we talked about this at half past 12:00. mitt romney and barack obama, they hardly know each other. they had only seen each o
what went on at this meeting. >> sure. >> this is from an aide to congressman paul ryan. it says, "congressman ryan had a constructive and positive conversation with mitt romney this morning. in addition to sharing updates from their families and reflections from the campaign, their forward-looking conversation focused on the critical fiscal and economic challenges ahead. that is a hint, suzanne, that they did talk about the fiscal cliff and, by the way, that aide did confirm...
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paul ryan out of the shadows, following his failed run for president. wisconsin republican with florida senator marco rubio urged the gop to unite voters, not divide them. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap. we must speak to the aspirations and anxieties of every american. >> i've heard it suggested that the problem is that the american people have changed. too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people, they just want what my parents had, a chance. >> ryan pointed out that he and rubio are seen as presidential contenders in 2016 and asked if anyone knew any good diners in iowa and new hampshire. >>> the united states taking a stand against people with disabilities? former senator bob dole took to the senate floor in his wheelchair to push for support of the united nations treaty that helps disabled people around the world. despite that, senators voted against the treaty, somethin
paul ryan out of the shadows, following his failed run for president. wisconsin republican with florida senator marco rubio urged the gop to unite voters, not divide them. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap. we must speak to the aspirations and anxieties of every american. >> i've heard it suggested that the problem is that the american people have changed. too many people...
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rocker kid rock introduced paul ryan and rallied the crowd. and who can forget meatloaf's version of the incredible "america the beautiful "while standing next to mitt romney. election day is the moment to celebrate the winners in politics. but for musicians, the big night is the grammys. the list includes familiar stars like kanye west and adele and maroon 5. there's one category that really caught my eye. it's the one for best spoken album, which includes audio books as well. check out the nominees. first lady michelle obama. she's nominated for her book, american grown. but look at her competition. it's former president bill clinton. he's nominated for his book "back to work." my colleague and friend, rachel maddow was nominated for her book "drift." incredible. but i'm disappointed. there's some serious snubs this year. i mean, how did this fellow performer not make the list. ♪ >> that deserved something. and mitt romney's tough year just got tougher. look at this snub. ♪ o beautiful for spacious skies for amber waves of grain ♪ ♪
rocker kid rock introduced paul ryan and rallied the crowd. and who can forget meatloaf's version of the incredible "america the beautiful "while standing next to mitt romney. election day is the moment to celebrate the winners in politics. but for musicians, the big night is the grammys. the list includes familiar stars like kanye west and adele and maroon 5. there's one category that really caught my eye. it's the one for best spoken album, which includes audio books as well. check...
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paul ryan is the defacto leader. he's supposed to be very influential though he's hiding from the press which is interesting. we know that marco rubio is running. will ryan support it. will he gets blamed if he does by the purist in the party. will marco rubio turn immigration around which is very risky with the base. >> it's interesting where the republicans have now suffered a loss. clearly mitt romney is not going to be be party leader. they don't actually have one and you watch the wilderness fight for a while. >> candy, i hate to say this because i know we all want to play along with 2016. i think part of the problem in washington is everyone is focused on next election. it's always an excuse not to get something done. i think the american people think we just went through an election now that you all have jobs can we solve problems and get something done. 2016 will be here way too soon and people are already running for office on both sides. honestly, i wish people would remember whatever party they're in you g
paul ryan is the defacto leader. he's supposed to be very influential though he's hiding from the press which is interesting. we know that marco rubio is running. will ryan support it. will he gets blamed if he does by the purist in the party. will marco rubio turn immigration around which is very risky with the base. >> it's interesting where the republicans have now suffered a loss. clearly mitt romney is not going to be be party leader. they don't actually have one and you watch the...
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so they made an exception in the case of paul ryan, but not the one woman who chaired a committee. >> this is just dumb. it speaks to their judgment and it speaks to what michael said, which is where their real heart is. it's funny, the ethics committee and administration committee are really important committees. but it is kind of easy to characterize it as saying they want one to be a mom and the other to be the house keeper. it's sort of speaks to the issue -- by the way, now you're going to do exactly what michael says you don't want to to. you didn't put a woman in a role just because she's a woman so you can check the box. there are qualified women who ought to have those roles based on their capacity and talent. >> thank you both very much. and you can watch this segment and in fact the rest of jansing and company on our new and improved home on the web. we are unveiling a revamped page today. bolder headlines, the latest news and best video from jansing and company and also a space for your comments. tell us what you think. >>> also making news this morning, former cia chief d
so they made an exception in the case of paul ryan, but not the one woman who chaired a committee. >> this is just dumb. it speaks to their judgment and it speaks to what michael said, which is where their real heart is. it's funny, the ethics committee and administration committee are really important committees. but it is kind of easy to characterize it as saying they want one to be a mom and the other to be the house keeper. it's sort of speaks to the issue -- by the way, now you're...
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house republicans have voted for paul ryan's budget twice. which turns medicare into a voucher program. that's really what they want to do. if they had the power, that's where they would go. the idea is deeply unpopular with the american people in polls. and that has been shown time and time again e. republicans want these kinds of cuts, but they would rather pin it on president obama than to take the blame. i say bring it on. it does pencil out. let's turn to dr. zeke emanuel, chair of medical ethics and health policy at university of pennsylvania and one of the architects of the affordable care act, which is now obama care. thank you for being with us tonight. sort this out for us. the $400 billion on the table with obama care or with medicare that the republicans deny cuts. who is telling the truth here? >> well, the real issue is whether you're cutting things to beneficiaries or using those cuts to really transform the system to make it more modern. and i think as they did in the campaign, they are trying to say this will harm beneficiari
house republicans have voted for paul ryan's budget twice. which turns medicare into a voucher program. that's really what they want to do. if they had the power, that's where they would go. the idea is deeply unpopular with the american people in polls. and that has been shown time and time again e. republicans want these kinds of cuts, but they would rather pin it on president obama than to take the blame. i say bring it on. it does pencil out. let's turn to dr. zeke emanuel, chair of medical...
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this is paul ryan. >> an election is coming along and people made their choice. policy makers still have a duty to choose between ideas that work and those that don't. when one economic after another failed our working families, it is no answer to express compassion for them or create more government programs that offer promise and don't perform . we must come together and advance new strategies. our complicated and uncertain tax code is hindering the jobs. you can't open a business if your tax rate is too high or uncertain. i personally oppose the president's plan to raise taxes. [applause] listen, this is not about a pledge. it is not about protecting millionaires and billionaires. for me it is the fact that tax increases he wants would fail to make a small dent in the debt but it would hurt the middle class business and people who work for them. >> gretchen: this is what the campaign was about . people are sick i and tired of hearing the same talking points . people want to see actual tax reform. get the job done and the kick the can down the road is what we h
this is paul ryan. >> an election is coming along and people made their choice. policy makers still have a duty to choose between ideas that work and those that don't. when one economic after another failed our working families, it is no answer to express compassion for them or create more government programs that offer promise and don't perform . we must come together and advance new strategies. our complicated and uncertain tax code is hindering the jobs. you can't open a business if...
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you are never going to get michelle bachmann paul ryan god bless america. for all of the other ones moderate republicans and those are like, wait a second. i am going to be in a tough primary fight. in the mid-term election, going to be in the mid-term fight against a democratic candidate. they are going to have to come to the middle. i think there is also, new republicans republicans, you know, in the united states congress like the bob corker's of this world, pat tumis whom say let's get something done because if we don't, it will be unpopular and we will get nothing done. >> the question is whether john boehner is going to be able to get that vote of the tea party members of the house. so far, what i find disgusting, if the republicans could have made this deal six months ago because they were so cocky. they figured they were going to knock obama out, it was going to be a different world. right? so they went home and said we will wait for the election. and let the people decide. we will be in charge after this eriction. guess what. >> that's what they di
you are never going to get michelle bachmann paul ryan god bless america. for all of the other ones moderate republicans and those are like, wait a second. i am going to be in a tough primary fight. in the mid-term election, going to be in the mid-term fight against a democratic candidate. they are going to have to come to the middle. i think there is also, new republicans republicans, you know, in the united states congress like the bob corker's of this world, pat tumis whom say let's get...
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paul ryan was there and marco rubio was there in honor of jack kemp. i want to play a little bit of this from marco rubio, senator from florida. >> our story is not rare in america. but it is rare in the world. had we been born almost anywhere else at any other time in history our lives would have been very different. i probably would have been a very opinionated bartender for example. [laughter] martha: great line from prub rube. pointing out the exceptionalism of america, which became, you know, sort of a controversial phrase. he appealing to hispanic voters but to everybody. >> absolutely. there has to be a pathway for citizenship for 12 million that are here. america was complicit in them coming here. we had porous borders and jobs that needed to be done. we just can't say that they came here illegally and america should have stopped them. while it is true maybe we should have stopped them from coming in they're here and we have to provide a legal pathway, whether it takes a decade to do it. what we need to do is implement the system by which they
paul ryan was there and marco rubio was there in honor of jack kemp. i want to play a little bit of this from marco rubio, senator from florida. >> our story is not rare in america. but it is rare in the world. had we been born almost anywhere else at any other time in history our lives would have been very different. i probably would have been a very opinionated bartender for example. [laughter] martha: great line from prub rube. pointing out the exceptionalism of america, which became,...
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. >>> today, john boehner, eric cantor and paul ryan finally kind of sort of responded to the president's budget proposal, a proposal of their own that they were so unmarried to that they didn't put their names on it. they said the whole thing was erskine bowles idea. they summarized the testimony that the bill clinton chief of staff last year gave about what he thought might kind of be a workable budget deal way back then. because bowles is a democrat, the republicans thought they he could try to pretend that agreeing with a single democrat means that they are actually willing to compromise big time even though erskine bowles is a very easy democrat to negotiate with, unlike the actual elected democrats in washington. in other words, erskine bowles is willing to compromise on things or was willing to compromise on things that the democrats are not willing to co comp pro mice on. which means that it's utterly meaningless on your way to try to get a deal with the president of the united states. erskine bowles' proposal included a $600 billion cut in medicare spending which he achieved by r
. >>> today, john boehner, eric cantor and paul ryan finally kind of sort of responded to the president's budget proposal, a proposal of their own that they were so unmarried to that they didn't put their names on it. they said the whole thing was erskine bowles idea. they summarized the testimony that the bill clinton chief of staff last year gave about what he thought might kind of be a workable budget deal way back then. because bowles is a democrat, the republicans thought they he...
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we debated it during the presidential with paul ryan's proposal to put -- turn medicare into a voucher system. so when it comes to looking for savings in medicare, there's ways to find savings without breaking the guarantee that we've had to our seniors for the last several decades. i think democrats, again, have demonstrated repeatedly that we're willing to compromise, but the republicans have to come to the table, especially around revenue. so the question frankly needs to be proposed to the person running the republican caucus, and that's grover norquist, who is not a member of this house, to say that the pledge that people should honor is the pledge to the u.s. constitution and not the pledge to grover norquist. >> speaker boehner was on fox news on sunday, and he says as he described negotiations, we're nowhere, period. we are nowhere. 29 days to go. we have some analysts such as our first read team that say the real negotiations won't begin until mid-november. already you have wall street and everyday people bracing for another 11th hour situations. how would you categorize where
we debated it during the presidential with paul ryan's proposal to put -- turn medicare into a voucher system. so when it comes to looking for savings in medicare, there's ways to find savings without breaking the guarantee that we've had to our seniors for the last several decades. i think democrats, again, have demonstrated repeatedly that we're willing to compromise, but the republicans have to come to the table, especially around revenue. so the question frankly needs to be proposed to the...
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so what boehner's done is said here's, we're as a team including paul ryan, suggesting this. what you have is some firming up on the conservative side, which i think says boehner, this is probably about as far as you can go. >> right. exactly. and so since joe said, so what is the outcome? what is your -- a compromise, you want to get a deal done, what do you think is possible here as a final tactic? >> i think you could create a -- what i would recommend doing is create a small package that shows the debt markets, not the american people, the debt markets that we're serious about what we're going to do, that you put a drop-dead date on the tax code like july 31st of next year. you have to reform the code. got this money and done it by then. otherwise there's no code. which means -- which is actually better in terms of really creating a more progressive tax code which most of my friends on the left would like to see, and sitting down and talking about here's what has to happen in terms of medicare, medicaid and social security. most people don't realize, part "d" -- i mean so
so what boehner's done is said here's, we're as a team including paul ryan, suggesting this. what you have is some firming up on the conservative side, which i think says boehner, this is probably about as far as you can go. >> right. exactly. and so since joe said, so what is the outcome? what is your -- a compromise, you want to get a deal done, what do you think is possible here as a final tactic? >> i think you could create a -- what i would recommend doing is create a small...
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meanwhile mitt romney's running mate, paul ryan said in a speech last night it's time for the republican party to change its approach to politics. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap. we must speak for the aspirations and anxieties of every american. >> reporter: in addition to paul ryan, marco rubio appeared in that same washington event. both are thinking about a possible run for the presidency in 2016. rubio said republicans also have to reshape their message to middle class americans and those who want to enter the middle class. >> major garrett, thank you. >>> officials say another crisis is looming, but it's physical not fiscal. flu season is off to an early and strong start. the south is already hard hit by this year's strain. three school systems in tennessee have closed the rest of the week because so many students and teachers are sick. with us now, past president of the national foundation for infectious diseases. doctor, good morning. >> good morning. >> it's early, it'
meanwhile mitt romney's running mate, paul ryan said in a speech last night it's time for the republican party to change its approach to politics. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap. we must speak for the aspirations and anxieties of every american. >> reporter: in addition to paul ryan, marco rubio appeared in that same washington event. both are thinking about a possible...
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for paul ryan, he doesn't want to be the austerity guy. so he too is looking at poverty, looking at immigration, and other issues to broaden his own portfolio. we have a great nugget in the piece about how in the campaign he wanted to go in inner cities, talk about poverty, and he got slapped back by the romney folks who said there's no constituency, there's no votes, we're not focusing on those issues. >> what's the next act for paul ryan coming off a losing vice presidential bid? what does he do four years from now or eight years from now? >> from my reporting, it's clear that rubio wants it and wants it badly. and i think wanting it matters when running for president. if you want it badly, you'll do all that stuff. we understand from folks talking to paul ryan, he doesn't want it as badly and isn't sure he wants to run. for the next two years, he's front and center in the fiscal debate. is he going to be the leader of resistance among conservatives or part of the solution? and i don't think he's made a decision yet. early signals are he
for paul ryan, he doesn't want to be the austerity guy. so he too is looking at poverty, looking at immigration, and other issues to broaden his own portfolio. we have a great nugget in the piece about how in the campaign he wanted to go in inner cities, talk about poverty, and he got slapped back by the romney folks who said there's no constituency, there's no votes, we're not focusing on those issues. >> what's the next act for paul ryan coming off a losing vice presidential bid? what...
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florida senator marco rubio and congressman paul ryan of wisconsin appearing together last night at the jack kemp foundation awards dinner washington. listen to mitt romney's former running mate softening the rhetoric. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that track. we must speaks to the aspirations and the anxieties of every american. >> senator rubio weighing in on the fiscal cliff debate and the idea of raising tax rates for the wealthy saying we need to make poor people richer, not rich people poorer. soledad. >> that's the kind of thinking that will get you votes, right? >> all right. thanks, zoraida. >> new york city police could be close to charging a suspect in that fatal subway push. they say a man is now being questioned and has implicated himself in this case. a front page "new york post" photo has become the source of a lot of controversy. it shows the victim desperately trying to climb up from the tracks as the train approaches. this morning we're hearing that the photographer
florida senator marco rubio and congressman paul ryan of wisconsin appearing together last night at the jack kemp foundation awards dinner washington. listen to mitt romney's former running mate softening the rhetoric. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that track. we must speaks to the aspirations and the anxieties of every american. >> senator rubio weighing in on the fiscal cliff...
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first harry reid at about 10:00 and then followed by a session with john boehner, eric cantor, paul ryan and chairman of the house's tax writing ways and means committee dave camp. also lunch with republican senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and nancy pelosi. yesterday a number of high profile corporate leaders met with president obama at the white house, including lloyd blankfein. >> both sides have acknowledge there had is revenue concessions and entitlement concessions. in fact if you listen to it, again, i'm not a master of the political art here, but i would say if you have these point of views in a business context, i would say a deal would be in reach. >> among our guests this morning, we have ron johnson. at the white house today, president obama will host mitt romney for a private lunch. it's their first meeting since the election. and this his victory speech, obama promised to engage with romney and consider his ideas. >> a lot of people didn't think the lunch would ever happen. >> interesting if he's going to be talking about ideas, mitt romney's idea had been to reach so
first harry reid at about 10:00 and then followed by a session with john boehner, eric cantor, paul ryan and chairman of the house's tax writing ways and means committee dave camp. also lunch with republican senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and nancy pelosi. yesterday a number of high profile corporate leaders met with president obama at the white house, including lloyd blankfein. >> both sides have acknowledge there had is revenue concessions and entitlement concessions. in fact if...
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. >> and while he is in town, he will meet with congressman paul ryan. they have kept in touch and at a are catching up somewhere off cap capt hill where ryan has returned to work. >> steve: i wonder if candy crowley will be invited. >> gretchen: it is a photop. it is disappointing in the sense. if it were president bill clinton, you might think that something. ideas might be exchanged with one another. >> steve: some folks suggest that maybe the president would offer him secretary of business. >> gretchen: really? wait a minute. what percentage of people watching right now think that president obama would offer mitt romney secretary of business. >> brian: that is. >> gretchen: that would be fantastic but i doubt it. >> brian: in reading his bio. one of the business mistake was working in the cabinet for president nixon. i am personally kind of disappointed that bee are talking about tax rates for the rich. >> steve: campaign. >> brian: what about the middle class people standing in the back drop as they need a break and the president urging for somethin
. >> and while he is in town, he will meet with congressman paul ryan. they have kept in touch and at a are catching up somewhere off cap capt hill where ryan has returned to work. >> steve: i wonder if candy crowley will be invited. >> gretchen: it is a photop. it is disappointing in the sense. if it were president bill clinton, you might think that something. ideas might be exchanged with one another. >> steve: some folks suggest that maybe the president would offer...
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paul ryan mentioned poverty a dozen times. marco rubio's focusing on the middle class and economic empowerment agenda for the middle class. but when marco rubio was giving his speech, he didn't mention the word "romney" once, and there was a message in that. and that was that he's turning the page. and so that passage that you were just talking to is his idea that there's a new conservatism that can appeal to more people -- that more people in society, people in even, say, the 47%, can be convinced that conservatives can help them. >> all right. mike allen. >> harold, would you like to crinkle up some more papers? >> i apologize. i was getting excited with this paper. learning how to fold. >> he was teaching him how to do origami. i thought it wasn't the right time. >> paper airplanes. very impressed with what i saw of marco rubio yesterday and how he handled the science question. he was light afoot. i thought he handle it had very well. >> ran the gauntlet of the mike allen primary, which is a key part of anyone getting elect
paul ryan mentioned poverty a dozen times. marco rubio's focusing on the middle class and economic empowerment agenda for the middle class. but when marco rubio was giving his speech, he didn't mention the word "romney" once, and there was a message in that. and that was that he's turning the page. and so that passage that you were just talking to is his idea that there's a new conservatism that can appeal to more people -- that more people in society, people in even, say, the 47%,...
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stuart: we can discuss all day long about that, but i mean paul ryan did have a very specific plan. he didn't win the election. he certainly did have a plan. >> it is not one that romney backed really. stuart: that's true. i do see a little drift here, a little drift here. at least you're prepared to admit that the president should put forward a reform plan. so let's move on to the issue of tax rates. >> okay. stuart: do you think the president is right to absolutely insist on tax rate increases? he won't tolerate reductions in deductions. he won't do that. no, it must be tax rates. will you defend that? >> well, i think he has the upper hand in the sense that seen, americans say they support raising taxes on the wealthy, so i think he feels that he has a mandate on that issue. look, i feel if the republicans are willing to make up that revenue another way, he should be open to that. i don't think it has to come from raising taxes. it could come -- stuart: the republicans have put forward a plan to raise 800 billion dollars over ten years. >> right. stuart: that's not by raising rat
stuart: we can discuss all day long about that, but i mean paul ryan did have a very specific plan. he didn't win the election. he certainly did have a plan. >> it is not one that romney backed really. stuart: that's true. i do see a little drift here, a little drift here. at least you're prepared to admit that the president should put forward a reform plan. so let's move on to the issue of tax rates. >> okay. stuart: do you think the president is right to absolutely insist on tax...
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if as they did with paul ryan, they say we want to take medicare, social security, medicaid, and they do the same thing now with mcconnell and they need a game changer. >> as i said, on the debt crisis --. >> no, it is about spending cuts and the president is proposing not cuts but more spending. >> here is the point. if the republicans said, wait, we are going to start right here on this constitutional question, make the democrats in the senate and house of representatives vote, do you think mary landrieu would vote to give him total power? the republicans do not have a clue how to handle this. >> that would be smart, to call a vote right now on the president's ability to take away from congress the power to raise the debt crisis. that one. on the point about --. >>gregg: that is unconstitutional. >> and the fact they need a positive pro growth agenda which sounds like what we have said each sunday since march about mitt romney but he never did it. he lost. the republicans are not doing i. the agenda is very clear, it is outlined in the simpson-bowles debt reduction commission which
if as they did with paul ryan, they say we want to take medicare, social security, medicaid, and they do the same thing now with mcconnell and they need a game changer. >> as i said, on the debt crisis --. >> no, it is about spending cuts and the president is proposing not cuts but more spending. >> here is the point. if the republicans said, wait, we are going to start right here on this constitutional question, make the democrats in the senate and house of representatives...
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. >> reporter: former republican vice presidential nominee paul ryan usually doesn't stop for hallway interviews but he made an exception to praise rg3 even though a congressman from wisconsin has to put the packers first. >> i like to think more that green bay is america's team. we can think the same way. look rg3 it's great to see a young guy come out and be successful. >> reporter: even the majority leader is inspired by rg3. >> he offers bipartisan hope. we hope the redskins have a successful season. >> it's probably like covering bruce springsteen. >> reporter: sports writer is writing a series on robert griffin iii for "the washington post." >> this town obama or rg3 who is the bigger figure in town? who owns this town? it's really one or the other. you flip a wine. >> great young man and a heck of a lot of fun to watch and i wish him all the luck in the world except when he plays the bears. >> reporter: rg3 may only be in his first campaign or season in washington, but he sounds like a seasoned politician with a big future on and off the field. >> when it comes to a town like d
. >> reporter: former republican vice presidential nominee paul ryan usually doesn't stop for hallway interviews but he made an exception to praise rg3 even though a congressman from wisconsin has to put the packers first. >> i like to think more that green bay is america's team. we can think the same way. look rg3 it's great to see a young guy come out and be successful. >> reporter: even the majority leader is inspired by rg3. >> he offers bipartisan hope. we hope the...
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this is the first time boehner got his entire leadership team, including cantor and paul ryan to sign a plan that called for the raising of revenue. so what is the republican counteroffer? $800 billion in tax revenue by closing loopholes and deductions. should point out that would affect families with an income of $250,000 or more. >> brian: they're going to leave the charitable deduction and talking about leaving the mortgage deduction. there is other deductions. they got to get specific at this point. the selection over. >> gretchen: it would have included 600 billion in entitlement cuts and other programs, extends the bush era tax cuts for everybody and it raises the medicare retirement age and, of course, democrats are very testy about that because they don't want to do that at all. i believe have raised it from 65 to 67. what's important is what steve alluded to, which is boehner -- >> brian: as opposed to what i allude to inasmuch but it included. >> gretchen: it included the top members of the republican party. eric cantor and paul ryan also signed on to this closing of the loo
this is the first time boehner got his entire leadership team, including cantor and paul ryan to sign a plan that called for the raising of revenue. so what is the republican counteroffer? $800 billion in tax revenue by closing loopholes and deductions. should point out that would affect families with an income of $250,000 or more. >> brian: they're going to leave the charitable deduction and talking about leaving the mortgage deduction. there is other deductions. they got to get specific...
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but paul ryan. he was not being that, quote/unquote that big of a deal in the presidential race but if you think about it, he's the one guy here in the u.s. who is really trying to put together ideas--wait wait, wait, he couldn't. he couldn't even carry his state. [ laughing ] >> stephanie: he couldn't even carry his hometown. >> in his home state. >> when bill o'reilly tells you you're an idiot for saying something like that you know you're an idiot. >> stephanie: we have a lot of right wing idiots, but wow you take the cake. okay bill o'reilly and dennis miller. >> sound byte: one of your favorite people, and she's nominated for person of the year by "time" magazine, and you say. i think she's perfect for the modern woman. and it's sad to say but single women, that's what been yielded up by the women's movement. i didn't see that coming but it would appear helplessness perpetually being caught in the 1968 virginia slim's ad in a magazine. i think she'll only accept the cover if they agree to comp
but paul ryan. he was not being that, quote/unquote that big of a deal in the presidential race but if you think about it, he's the one guy here in the u.s. who is really trying to put together ideas--wait wait, wait, he couldn't. he couldn't even carry his state. [ laughing ] >> stephanie: he couldn't even carry his hometown. >> in his home state. >> when bill o'reilly tells you you're an idiot for saying something like that you know you're an idiot. >> stephanie: we...
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we've seen even paul ryan as well. do we see a shift that's happening here that's a little more immigrant friendly. >> i think losing for a second time and getting a low number of hispanics really stunk. it caused a wake-up call that we haven't seen before, and i think there's this realization that the immigration issue, though not the priority issue for hispanics, is an emotional issue and that we are losing hispanics and not able to talk to hispanics about other issues like the economy because, you know, because of the rhetoric, because of the tone issues like and the policy on lishz line immigration. i think there is a realization. now, you know, suzanne, this is washington. there's a huge difference between a realization and legislation. we'll just have to see what happens, and we're going to have to see what kind of skin in the game president obama and the democrats have come up with. this is going to have to be a bipartisan solution. >> all right. you mentioned mitt romney in his grave. let's see if he becomes re
we've seen even paul ryan as well. do we see a shift that's happening here that's a little more immigrant friendly. >> i think losing for a second time and getting a low number of hispanics really stunk. it caused a wake-up call that we haven't seen before, and i think there's this realization that the immigration issue, though not the priority issue for hispanics, is an emotional issue and that we are losing hispanics and not able to talk to hispanics about other issues like the economy...
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instead of responding to that with what republicans have long pushed, for example, the paul ryan budget, they decided to go with this, which is in the words of one staffer, a plan that everybody detests. so they want to start with a framework that nobody likes because that way they each side will maybe be able to give a little bit more. this is definitely a big move, because the republicans are -- democrats said the ball was in their court. they obviously agreed. they're sending a proposal back to the president right now. >> message received. let me give you a moment to catch your breath and thank you as we're hearing stand by. we're getting this counterproposal, if you will, from republicans and as dana points out, initially it was an idea from a democrat, from erskine bowles who recently met with the president. so we now have the plan from the white house. we now have the counterplan from the republicans and perhaps in a matter of days they'll continue to meet in the middle. the really big sticking point when it comes to your tax and my taxes is the republicans want to extend the bush
instead of responding to that with what republicans have long pushed, for example, the paul ryan budget, they decided to go with this, which is in the words of one staffer, a plan that everybody detests. so they want to start with a framework that nobody likes because that way they each side will maybe be able to give a little bit more. this is definitely a big move, because the republicans are -- democrats said the ball was in their court. they obviously agreed. they're sending a proposal back...
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. >> ryan, are we hearing any house republicans saying no way, we should not compromise? >> sure, and rand paul on the senate side who speaks for a lot of tea partiers said that today. said we shouldn't compromise. shouldn't even compromise on deductions. i thought your kremlin analogy was pitch perfect. there's a lot more going on and the last couple of years, there's been a ton of pressure from rank and file republicans on leadership saying look, we're getting killed at home over these millionaire tax cuts. why don't we just take what charles schumer offered, extend it for everybody but a million above and get this off the table and move on. leadership was able to unify their conference the last two years around no tax cuts for anybody at any time, but now that tom cole is out now, the situation has changed a little bit, i think you're going see a lot of that pressure, which was mostly unreported start to bubble up a lot more. >> tom cole was asked tonight on cnn about defying grover norquist and the pledge. >> i admire grover norquist. i think he's done a lot of good.
. >> ryan, are we hearing any house republicans saying no way, we should not compromise? >> sure, and rand paul on the senate side who speaks for a lot of tea partiers said that today. said we shouldn't compromise. shouldn't even compromise on deductions. i thought your kremlin analogy was pitch perfect. there's a lot more going on and the last couple of years, there's been a ton of pressure from rank and file republicans on leadership saying look, we're getting killed at home over...
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he and paul ryan met with president obama in washington last week. >>> witnesses say it was terrifying, a crushing tunnel collapse about 50 miles west of tokyo. authorities have recovered nine bodies, most of them from burned vehicles. experts say aging parts in the tunnel could be to blame. the disaster has prompted japanese officials to order emergency inspections of dudsens of other tunnels with similar designs across the country. >>> and here's a sign of the times. the pope is on twitter. the vatican today revealed pope benedict's personal handle is @pontifacts. the vatican said the pope believes the catholic church must be present in the digital arena. that's going to be hard to answer a question about faith in 140 characters. >> he'll probably have 1 million followers in two hours. >> he has more than 230,000 followers and he hasn't even had a single tweet. his name means bridge builder in latin. another name for the pope. >> yeah. i'll follow him. >> i will as well. >> are thank you very much. maybe if i follow him, he'll follow me, too. >> that would be a very great thing. >> m
he and paul ryan met with president obama in washington last week. >>> witnesses say it was terrifying, a crushing tunnel collapse about 50 miles west of tokyo. authorities have recovered nine bodies, most of them from burned vehicles. experts say aging parts in the tunnel could be to blame. the disaster has prompted japanese officials to order emergency inspections of dudsens of other tunnels with similar designs across the country. >>> and here's a sign of the times. the...
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so apparently the whole paul ryan is the devil thing didn't latch on. but what do we do now to keep medicare -- you know, you watch the show. we talk about it all the time. how do we make medicare stronger? how do we keep it going? how do we stop it from bankrupting? >> so i think that there are, as we go forward, there are going to have to be two things that people do. the first thing is we are going to have to reduce our medicare spending. and at the center for american progress, we put out a report two weeks ago, just after the election, about how to get $385 billion saved. i think that has helped explain where the cuts would come from. >> is it all on the providers side or is some of it on the beneficiary side? >> some of it's on the beneficiary side because we do want to have wealthier medicare recipients pay more for their part "b" benefits. but i think separate from that, we also need to think about changing the system. and i would say each player needs to change. first, on the doctor side, we definitely -- or the hospital side. we definitely nee
so apparently the whole paul ryan is the devil thing didn't latch on. but what do we do now to keep medicare -- you know, you watch the show. we talk about it all the time. how do we make medicare stronger? how do we keep it going? how do we stop it from bankrupting? >> so i think that there are, as we go forward, there are going to have to be two things that people do. the first thing is we are going to have to reduce our medicare spending. and at the center for american progress, we put...
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democrats will say that's the paul ryan precedent, that in his medicare plan, the vast majority of all changes take place a decade from now. so republicans are going to have to swallow a tax increase today for medicare cuts on a faraway tomorrow. and as far as what those tax cuts look like, there's going to be a tax rate increase, certainly in the short term. and if you just look at the -- there's an article you can link to our piece today, just look at the top 20 loopholes in deductions. and it shows that it's virtually impossible to close or change any of the most expensive ones. so you're probably going to end up with some kind of total cap on deductions or some sort of alternative minimum tax rate for rich people. so you can jack up the amount of revenue that you're getting for people making over $250,000 or $500,000, whatever the end number is. but again, if you listen to the rhetoric on camera, it sounds like well, there's no way there will be a deal. if you talk to people who have been in the room, they say calm down. it's going to be ugly, but we think we can eventually get the
democrats will say that's the paul ryan precedent, that in his medicare plan, the vast majority of all changes take place a decade from now. so republicans are going to have to swallow a tax increase today for medicare cuts on a faraway tomorrow. and as far as what those tax cuts look like, there's going to be a tax rate increase, certainly in the short term. and if you just look at the -- there's an article you can link to our piece today, just look at the top 20 loopholes in deductions. and...